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Post by aimhigh on Aug 5, 2013 11:57:43 GMT -8
This 17 yo player will be attending college in the fall of 2014 and wants to play college ball. He attends Archer HS in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Archer is a 6A school and competes in Region 8. He has a 3.3 GPA, and scored a 1460 on his SAT.
He is 5'-10", weighs 170 and runs a 6.6/60.
He bats and throws right. His coaches have always played him in the outfield because of his speed and arm strength; however in my opinion he has the athleticism and coachability to play middle infield if an opportunity presented itself.
His swing in the video was a 86 -87ish fastball on an 0-0 count. He was sitting fastball and was just a tad early so he had to delay for a fraction of a second into heel plant. The bat is a 34 inch 31 oz BBCOR
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Post by mightylakers on Aug 5, 2013 13:01:50 GMT -8
What does 1460 mean? Isn't SAT score in the 2000 range? Also is GPA 3.3 weighted or unweighted?
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Post by aimhigh on Aug 5, 2013 13:57:42 GMT -8
What does 1460 mean? Isn't SAT score in the 2000 range? Also is GPA 3.3 weighted or unweighted? Here is some general info on SAT scores. He took the SAT this summer. He is a rising senior so he has the option of taking them again sometime during his senior year. SAT INFOGPA is not weighted.
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Post by mightylakers on Aug 5, 2013 14:05:51 GMT -8
So he has 1460 out of 2400? Depending on what school is he looking for but that sounds awful low.
My elder son had a 2300 score when he was in HS. OK he's not an athlete but you got the picture.
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Post by aimhigh on Aug 5, 2013 14:35:16 GMT -8
1498 was the national average. Here is the break down.
Critical reading:496 Mathematics: 514 Writing: 488
The average SAT scores for UGA 2012 Freshmen was 1273.
My DD scored an 1800 and has a 3.8 GPA which qualifies her for the Hope Scholarship here in Georgia. I was pretty happy with her scores.
It sounds like your kid is super smart and has a bright future.
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Post by pstein on Aug 5, 2013 16:26:47 GMT -8
So he has 1460 out of 2400? Depending on what school is he looking for but that sounds awful low. My elder son had a 2300 score when he was in HS. OK he's not an athlete but you got the picture. Colleges don't care about the writing section. It was only added to prevent the University of California system from removing the SAT as an admissions criterion. I believe the format of the test is changing again, to a format more like the ACT. The ACT with writing is accepted by every college, and many colleges just accept the ACT without writing. I've taken these tests relatively recently, and found that the ACT was a far better measurement of knowledge, whereas the SAT seems to measure ability to take the SAT.
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Post by pstein on Aug 5, 2013 16:28:34 GMT -8
1498 was the national average. Here is the break down. Critical reading:496 Mathematics: 514 Writing: 488 The average SAT scores for UGA 2012 Freshmen was 1273. My DD scored an 1800 and has a 3.8 GPA which qualifies her for the Hope Scholarship here in Georgia. I was pretty happy with her scores. It sounds like your kid is super smart and has a bright future. Congratulations to your DD. Also, as I said in my last post, colleges don't care about the writing section. So the player has a 1010 for the purposes of college admissions.
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Post by aimhigh on Aug 6, 2013 2:08:53 GMT -8
Aim That is not a top tier high school so he will get no benefit on that score. If he is a great player he can get into UGA with those grades. I'd say D2 or JUCO. Where does he hope to attend. He would have heard from D1 schools by now IMO. Kharma He's kind of leaning towards a smaller college. Something like a Kennesaw State or Columbus State. There are lots of smaller very reputable colleges throughout Georgia, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Florida, Alabama and Mississippi. One out of state school he may apply to is Mississippi State because a bunch of his relatives have gone there. It's kind of a tradition on his Dad's side of the family. They are very big Mississippi State fans. I think he is leaning towards majoring in Business.
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Post by aimhigh on Aug 6, 2013 2:48:55 GMT -8
1498 was the national average. Here is the break down. Critical reading:496 Mathematics: 514 Writing: 488 The average SAT scores for UGA 2012 Freshmen was 1273. My DD scored an 1800 and has a 3.8 GPA which qualifies her for the Hope Scholarship here in Georgia. I was pretty happy with her scores. It sounds like your kid is super smart and has a bright future. Congratulations to your DD. Also, as I said in my last post, colleges don't care about the writing section. So the player has a 1010 for the purposes of college admissions. The writing section was his worst score. He got something like a 400 or 420. This kid is not a dumb jock, he scored a 600 on the math section. He scored a 460 on the reading section and he is confident he can do better on that section if he decides to retake it. He will be taking the ACTs later this year. Because of the growth in this area, there have been several new high schools, middle schools and elementary schools built in the past few years. Archer HS was established in 2009 so it is a newer school. As far as athletics, Archer is a division 6A School, which is the highest division in Georgia. They play in Region 8 which is one of the tougher divisions in Georgia. They play in the same division as Grayson where my DD goes; Brookwood, and Parkview, to name a few. Archer won the State Championship this past year in Fastpitch Softball and Wrestling, so their athletic programs are coming along nicely.
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Post by aimhigh on Aug 7, 2013 5:06:48 GMT -8
Aim To go to a KSU or Miss State at this point he better plan on walking on. Kharma I told him as I do every kid planning to attend college, to pick their college based on their academic area of interest first and foremost. I expect his speed will make him a good candidate for a walk-on at many colleges. He has totally revamped his swing and can drive the ball to all fields. Not so much HRs, but a consistent gap to gap type hitter. Given a chance, I feel like his speed and hitting would allow him to work his way onto a team. I've been to several of his games, and once he gets on base he tends to cause issues for the defense. As they say..."You Can't Coach Speed". I got the Mississippi college wrong. It's not Miss State, it's Ole Miss. I get your point about it being late in the game to get a baseball scholarship at a lot of colleges. However, there may be some smaller colleges out there still looking for a speedy player who can drive the ball and get on base.
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Post by Brett on Aug 7, 2013 8:06:12 GMT -8
I told him as I do every kid planning to attend college, to pick their college based on their academic area of interest first and foremost. My advice is different for most kids who play baseball. IMO most 17 and 18 year old ballplayers aren't sure what they want to study when they go into school. In fact, I believe the average college student changes majors more than twice... If you are a ballplayer, figure out what you want. Of course every kid wants to start and play shortstop at South Carolina, UCLA, LSU, or wherever, but be realistic about your goals. Do you want to play right away? Is it more important for you to be on a winner? Are academics your number 1 focus? There are a ton of factors, but the one that seems to fit the most for players is this: What school wants you the most?If the kid is in a position to play from day 1 at a DII versus walking on with no guarantees at a DI, I would advise them to look into the DII. In my experience, most players want to play, so they should go where the best opportunity lies for them.
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Post by mightylakers on Aug 7, 2013 8:37:30 GMT -8
Are academics your number 1 focus? There are a ton of factors, but the one that seems to fit the most for players is this: What school wants you the most?If the kid is in a position to play from day 1 at a DII versus walking on with no guarantees at a DI, I would advise them to look into the DII. In my experience, most players want to play, so they should go where the best opportunity lies for them. You know, based on how many players can actually make it to the big why not put Academics your number one focus?
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Post by aimhigh on Aug 7, 2013 9:28:33 GMT -8
Aim Old Miss is a beautiful school but his chances there are even more remote. I don't know what his finances are like but I'd try to get him into a PG event. That is his only shot at D1 IMO There are plenty of good baseball colleges near him. I'd start contacting coaches for a tryout. Good luck. Kharma I'm curious as to why you feel his chances at a D1 school are remote. I'm not suggesting you are wrong, I'm just trying to learn from others who have had more experience with the whole college recruitment process. Just give it to me straight. Is it his SAT scores, size, age.....?
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Post by pstein on Aug 7, 2013 10:02:11 GMT -8
You know, based on how many players can actually make it to the big why not put Academics your number one focus? That's not how our society works, because we glorify non-academic people. It's very sad.
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Post by Cannonball on Aug 7, 2013 11:53:53 GMT -8
I don't know why a lot of people look down on D-II athletics. I've had 6-8 players who went on to play professionally attend D-II schools. The best advice is to seek the education first in a subject your son/nephew is interested in and think baseball second. You have to promote your son/nephew/... because the old saying that if you have talent they will find you isn't true all of the time. Have this young man take the test again and again until he has the score he needs or until he can't take it any more. We had our daughter take the ACT 4 times. The difference at one university that she was recruited by of one point in her ACT amounted to over $10,000/year. As an FYI, your academic monies (scholarships) are based upon tests scores (SAT or ACT), class rank, and GPA. At our school, we don't have any weighted classes. College have different formulas for schools that do and don't have weighted classes. Anyway, my daughter never improved her score and scored the same each time. Still, she received an academic scholarship along with her athletic scholarship. At most of the D-I school recruiting her, she was offered 40% athletic scholarship. Two or three lower D-Is offered 50%. The D-IIs all offered 50% or more. Where she is now playing, the coach told us he'd make an offer that she could not refuse. He kept his word. Along with academic monies, the wife and I don't pay much at all. The best part is she wants to be a teacher and so, who cares where she went and why go somewhere where she would have a huge debt to pay back. For us, D-II was the way for our daughter to go.
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This fall, my daughter will be taking 18 hours and playing ball. Some of you have done the same. She will be tested to see if she can keep her GPA up and keep those academic monies. Anyone who plays collegiate sports knows how hard it is to do both.
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