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Post by cosmo34 on Oct 16, 2009 9:36:31 GMT -8
unnecessary and pointless job in all of sports."
Saw this statement on a Cubs board (yea what do you expect) about the possible hiring of Jaramillo.
Now I know the good/bad that can come from hitting coaches, but it would be cool to hear other's thoughts about this.
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Post by ray on Oct 16, 2009 16:27:54 GMT -8
A guy who works for me is good friends with the son of a former ML player, former ML hitting coach and current scout. He said that a lot of what he did was compare the players swing to when they were going well compared to when they are struggling and point out the differences.
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Post by swingbuilder on Oct 22, 2009 15:58:57 GMT -8
Most of the relations between a hitting coach and a player are similar to BM vs Teach. ;D
at that level most just need positive stroking. There swing got them there in the 1st place. The hitting coach more times than not was already there.
The best ones dont coach to much. Keep in mind most all of them hit at that level with success.
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Post by Brett on Oct 22, 2009 18:37:38 GMT -8
Most of the relations between a hitting coach and a player are similar to BM vs Teach. ;D at that level most just need positive stroking. There swing got them there in the 1st place. The hitting coach more times than not was already there. The best ones dont coach to much. Keep in mind most all of them hit at that level with success. I agree that pro hitting coaches should be there for positive reinforcement over mechanics, and they should be, becuase many of them do not have a grasp on mechanics. IMO, pro hitting coaches need to be there to evaluate the mental game more than anything. Be there to discuss past at bats and how to apply lessons to upcoming ones. I learned a lot of good things about how to handle myself mentally from at bat to at bat through my pro hitting coaches. However, it is always a plus to have a coach that really understands the mechanics and how to teach them... |
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Post by wrstdude on Oct 25, 2009 19:41:08 GMT -8
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Post by cosmo34 on Oct 27, 2009 21:03:08 GMT -8
I hope he messes up Pujols like he did Holliday this year :0
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Post by fivetoolprospects on Mar 14, 2010 17:46:57 GMT -8
The biggest difference between pro vs. amateur hitting coaches is that not of the instruction or adjustments take place in the off-season. Pro hitting coaches have very little personal, one-on-one contact with their hitters in spring training and then it is straight into the long grind of the season. Now you are talking about guys that are living and dying by their performance on the field and is it a touchy subject to mess with a hitter's mechanics while he is struggling to make it to the next level because you don't want to be the reason for a player's ultimate release. For higher level prospects or "bonus babies" that are guaranteed 3-4 years of development before the threat of the axe coming down on them if they don't produce, they have the benefit to mess with their swing a little more, but most players have to trust what got them there in the first place to help them advance and neither the coach or hitter want mechanics in their head while they are at the plate, so most of the adjustments are small and able to be done on a relatively subconscious level. The amateur hitting coach, especially the college coach, gets literally months of one-on-one and sometimes an entire year in a red-shirt situation to play with a hitter's mechanics. The time frame lets the hitter be more natural with a big change.
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Post by pstein on Apr 1, 2011 17:04:32 GMT -8
Hitting coach is a job that requires no real ability to teach. Just toe the company line and act as though you know what you're talking about. baseballtips.com/13reasons.html |
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Post by Brett on Apr 2, 2011 10:19:35 GMT -8
Hitting coach is a job that requires no real ability to teach. Just toe the company line and act as though you know what you're talking about. baseballtips.com/13reasons.htmlUnfortunately I believe this statement to be true at the pro level. If you have experience and can get along, you can have a job. The hardest working hitting coaches I found in pro ball usually had the least amount of experience. The culture created a need for them to prove themselves by working harder than those who played at a higher level for a longer time. As a hitter I always appreciated these guys more. They may not have the mental side down like those who played, but they could break down the mechanics better because they worked at it. That is not to say that all hitting coaches with high-level playing experience are lazy and useless, but there definitely is a culture of it around pro ball... |
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Post by pstein on Apr 3, 2011 15:58:37 GMT -8
Mattingly works hard (supposedly) but just doesn't get it. Honestly, what do hitting coaches actually do? Most hitters can self correct. Those who can't get eliminated. Good hitting coaches can help average hitters become good. Lau Sr. did this everywhere he went (even though I don't like his philosophy) and Walt Hriniak did the opposite almost everywhere he went.
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